5 thoughts on “Dr. Stu’s Podcast #118 : “Nebraska Birth Keeper”

  1. Diana

    I would strongly, strongly caution health practitioners against this. The arguments advanced by PMA advocates are gross misapplications of constitutional law and anyone who asserts otherwise is selling a lie. Many state and federal bodies such as licensing bodies, departments of public health and the FDA have successfully reached beyond PMAs to sanction members for violating laws they are seeking to avoid. The man who popularized the PMA concept among alternative health practitioners has been convicted of several federal crimes and is not even lawyer. PMAs are not a well kept secret. They’re a scam and I’m super concerned to see them taking hold among midwives.

    • Katharine McCall

      Thank you. I’m also incredibly concerned for midwives that this is being spread around now.

  2. I would also caution about it as well. My question would be, “Has this PMA been tested in a court of law?”. It’s one thing to pay a lawyer $6000 to do some paperwork. It is quite another to be charged and then come out the other side. In general, it’s all well and good to practice until you have a bad outcome or you get a complaint to the government from a public member.

  3. theresa

    What about telling moms they have the option of delivering with no epidural or medication within a hospital setting with a doula and minimal “medical intervention” but with the safety net of resuscitative emergency equipment and staff immediately available.
    Also who governs that your “traditionally trained” person is really trained and not just someone who has watched a few moms give birth.

  4. Katharine McCall

    Stu, Blyss, and audience,

    There is no such thing as alegal. If your profession is not mentioned by law it is de facto LEGAL. PMAs have never held up in court… and in a state where unregulated midwifery is legal you definitely don’t need a PMA to practice.

    Also, please remember that if an act is legal, a PMA isn’t required. If an act is illegal, a PMA won’t help you and could just add a couple years to your conviction for a possible additional conspiracy charge.

    Please don’t spread misinformation. This was discussed at length in my own trial and found to be an illegal conspiracy. It has also failed for midwives in other states.

    These “specialized lawyers” won’t defend you when you are arrested.

    -Katie McCall

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